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Václav Černý: Vyhnání Němců | 80 comments (74 topical, 6 editorial, 0 pending)
Alesi (none / 0) (#21)
alias 31.07.2004 15:32:54 MET
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Sudetští Němci od Evropské unie očekávají, že přiměje svého nového člena, Českou republiku, zrušit takzvané Benešovy dekrety

mluvim o Evropske Unii ne o ESLP

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Ano, Miloši, (none / 0) (#22)
Ales Zeman 31.07.2004 15:42:28 MET
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o tom přece řeční nejen Bernd Posselt, ale i Edmund Stoiber již delší čas, nejvíce v období Svatodušních svátků na sjezdech Landsmannschaftu.

Víš něco (nebo někdo jiný) o činnosti kanceláře SL v Praze? Je stále otevřena?


Philosophie: Toujours en ricaner. (Flaubert)
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Budou si velmi rozmyslet (4.50 / 2) (#26)
HUSITA 31.07.2004 17:29:51 MET
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tuto vec rozdmychat...tedy juuropacke soudy.
Jestli nekde prijde pred soudce politika tak je to prave zde.
Od mirumilovne juuropy kde je snad jen par kriklounu v bavorsku k
podrezavani krku,spalenych baracich ,autech v luftu neni vubec daleko.A to uz dnez kazdy vi ze lip nechat vec na pokoji.

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Alesi z pohledu mezinarodnich vztahu dnes? (none / 0) (#32)
Astr 02.08.2004 07:11:34 MET
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 co rika Guardian z tohoto pohledu:

Schröder apologises to Poles for 'immeasurable' wartime suffering

German leader pays tribute to victims of Warsaw uprising

Ben Aris in Berlin and AP in Warsaw
Monday August 2, 2004
The Guardian

The German chancellor, Gerhard Schröder, acknowledged the "immeasurable suffering" inflicted by Nazi troops on Poland at a ceremony yesterday to mark the 60th anniversary of the failed Warsaw uprising, which ended in the slaughter of more than 200,000 civilians.
He told a news conference after talks with the Polish prime minister, Marek Belka: "I consider it a great honour to me personally to have been invited, and a big-hearted gesture to my country, which brought such immeasurable suffering with the war it started."

Mr Schröder, the first German chancellor to be invited to the ceremony, was hoping to clear the "bad atmosphere" that has soured relations between the two neighbours.

In a powerful gesture, he bowed on the steps of the memorial to the uprising, which bears the names of the dead, as a trumpeter played.

Relations between Warsaw and Berlin have improved enormously since the break up of the communist bloc in 1989, but claims on property by the descendants of Germans who were expelled from Poland after the war remain a running sore.

Mr Schröder's comments came at the climax of a three-day-long commemoration of the 40,000 partisans of the Polish Home Army which rose up against the Nazi occupying troops in the closing stages of the war.

The Poles were expecting help from the rapidly advancing Russian army, which had reached the east banks of the Vistula river, but Stalin held his troops back.

Last night the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, released a statement from the Kremlin praising Warsaw's resistance to the Nazis. "Their feat is immortal; the sacrifices that your people suffered will remain for ever in our historical memory," he said.

 The Polish forces in Britain wanted to fly to Warsaw to support their comrades, but Winston Churchill ruled out a rescue operation.

Although the partisans were outnumbered by nearly two to one, they managed to hold out for 63 days, before being crushed by the Waffen-SS.

Hitler ordered the destruction of the city, street by street, and the execution or deportation of its population.

About 200,000 civilians died in the fighting, 165,000 were sent to labour camps, and a further 350,000 were displaced.

Despite the warmer relations with Germany, Polish tempers flared again last week when the relatives of Germans expelled from Poland after the war once again called for their ancestral property to be returned. Many Poles saw their homes turned into piles of rubble by the Nazis.

Mr Belka told the German daily Die Welt:
 "We have our own citizens who were displaced or, if you will, expelled. We took the burden upon ourselves to compensate them. We are not making any demands on anyone else. I hope you un derstand what I am getting at."

After Poland and the Czech Republic joined the EU in May, the rightwing Prussian Trust organisation, which represents families of expelled Germans, began a series of lawsuits in those countries to recover property seized after the war.

Mr Schröder made his strongest statement yet after talks with Mr Belka yesterday and said the German government would not support these claims. "The German government will oppose such claims and make that plain before any international court."

Mr Belka welcomed the statement. He said they had discussed "how to proceed so that relations do not worsen".

The Polish government is adamant that the issue is closed. The deputy foreign minister, Jan Truszczynski, told parliament on Friday that the properties had been taken by Poland as war reparations and could not be handed back. He called on the German government to make its position on the claims clear.

Mr Belka has also asked the British government to apologise for the failure to send aid during the uprising. The deputy prime minister, John Prescott, who was among those laying wreaths at the monument, said that Britain owed a "profound debt of gratitude" to Poland, but stopped short of admitting the Allies could have done more to help.

The US secretary of state, Colin Powell, was also at the ceremonies. Polish troops are members of the multilateral force in Iraq and Mr Powell was keen to reassure Poland. He expressed "admiration for the spirit that kept freedom alive during those terrible days of world war two", and stressed the need for the international community not to abandon its allies today.

"Poland will never be alone again as it was 60 years ago. The US will always be with Poland," he said. "Freedom costs lives, but freedom is important," he said after talks with the Polish foreign minister. "We must now stand with the people of Iraq as they try to build better lives for themselves."

Jen dodatek Alesi:
co rika DNESNI sef Nemecka, nic nerika o tom co bude rikat treba sef pristi!
Co treba Stoiber?
Prijde "Nove Nemecko" s novymi pozadavky?
I z te Klokani dalky se mi to jevi, ze tohle by mohlo znamenat Polske a Ceske znepokojeni s vysledkem kde bychom mohli v budoucnu cist misto neuspokojenych pozadavku Nekterych Nemcu o Neskokojenych v Polsku CR a v oblastech byvalych Nemeckych vychodich uzemich.

Ale Ty v Canade, ja v Australii- nam Pratelske zachazeni "sonderbehandlung" od Pratelske SL a genosse Stoibera nehrozi:-)
jen posledni poznamku podminky pro to v CR nazravaji, jestli uz nejsou plne pripravene:

viz Michaela:
Ja se tomu nedivim (4.50 / 6) (#78)
Michaela 16.07.2004 13:14:45 MET
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jako driv, mne uz je to jasne

protoze jsme uz proste takovi

komunismem prolezli az do morku kosti
a komunismus jsme si zvolili
protoze jsme uz proste takovi
pasivni
stadni
zavistivi
netolerantni
namysleni
a bez sebevedomi zaroven

jsme bez noblesy
bez cti
bez velkorysosti

neumime byt zodpovedni

jsme narodem lokaju
buranu
a kocich
a takovyma zustanem


a klikni si na link, kdo vsechno tomu dal 5

takto "pripraveny" narod ci presneji obyvatele CR=v presnem popisu Michaely" jaci jsme"

nejsou toto opravdu podminky ke vsemu? moznemu i nemoznemu ?

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Astře, (none / 0) (#33)
Ales Zeman 02.08.2004 22:03:10 MET
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o Schröderově návštěvě Polska jsem četl. V otázce majetkových nároků etnických Němců se myslím vyjádřil velmi jasně. Jak píšeš, situace by se mohla dosti podstatně změnit, kdyby na místo kancléře se dostal Edmund Stoiber. A byl by to problém nejen německo-český, ale i německo-polský. Ne, v Klokánii či zde v zemi "Ahornblattu" nějaký "Sonderbehandlung" vskutku nehrozí.


Philosophie: Toujours en ricaner. (Flaubert)
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